Dozens Integration

Dozens now has an open banking API and is inviting TPPs to get in touch to use it:

https://www.dozens.com/dozens-api-documentation/

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Was this ever explored?

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Not at this point.

To be honest, Dozen is not even ranking for Finance on the App Store. :cry:

That’s a shame - I would also like support for them to be added but I know they are a bit under the radar at the moment!

Could you please add “Dozens” bank to your list of intergrateble banks?

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Dozens needs to create an API first.

See the dozens community for more info here

https://weare.dozens.com/t/emma-integration/642

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Dozens have had an API for almost a year. It’s been dismissed earlier in the thread as not being worth the effort to connect to it.

No, we won’t cover these small cases, unless they get coverage.

You can quickly see here (https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/dozens/id1403364204) that Dozens is not even ranking in the Finance category on the App Store.

The rank goes up to #200 and if you are the 200th app, this means you are getting about 30-40 downloads a day, so as of today, Dozens is probably getting 10 users a day or less.

If one of these companies had an API, we would consider based on the opportunity.

For example, we were working with PensionBee on Cashback and Save Money, so it made a lot of sense to have an integration in the app.

In the same way, it makes sense to have Freetrade, eToro, HL, Fidelity, Nutmeg, Wealthsimple and so on…

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I think for the past couple of years some of these companies haven’t made an effort to provide an API because they didn’t see the opportunity.

However, since we are getting bigger than all of them combined, I’d expect them to knock at our door very soon. :slight_smile:

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Well, if there is an API, it’s a no brainer.

However, if we spend a day working on the API and 10 people connect, it’s just a very tough sell, no?

We monitor everything and there are about 284 people with Dozens in Emma.

Very low.

As of today, I think the only thing that would really move the needle is MoneyBox.

I have been messaging the founder since 2018. :sweat_smile:

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In terms of Dozens, 284 is not even active users.

Let’s say 150 are active. We spend a few weeks building the integration (if they have an API), then release it, make a lot of noise and we got 40 people to connect.

In the app, there are currently 100k monthly active users.

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How useful is the App store really as a gauge? Monzo has considerably less customers than most high street banks but for probably two years has been consistently higher than almost every high street bank. Barclays is perhaps the only exception.

As of Nov 2020, Dozens actually have 50,000 users

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This is a fake metric.

What they are reporting is registered users, not active.

If they are lucky, they have less than 10k monthly active users.

Have accounts with Dozens, Wise and Revolut. Only use Revolut to make Card payments for Current accounts that require them for money back. Wise charge for transfers and Dozens seem okay but I don’t actually use the account. I can see why they may not be worth the effort.

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Dozens have 5% savings bonds, which is a good selling point, and are also Visa (while most fintechs are Mastercard).

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They publish the number of successful bids for their bond. The £1 million bumper issue had around 350 successful bids. Typically it’s 150 successful bids each month. So yeah, that suggests a very low user base at the moment!

To be fair to dozens though, I don’t think they’re pursuing any kind of really aggressive customer acquisition at the moment - the focus is on building their products and tech. So, yeah, not really one for Emma :joy:

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How do you monitor who has dozens if you haven’t connected to their API?

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