# Vanguard Integration

**URL:** https://community.emma-app.com/t/vanguard-integration/3909
**Category:** UK Integrations 🇬🇧
**Created:** [October 1, 2019, 10:44am UTC](https://community.emma-app.com/t/vanguard-integration/3909 "2019-10-01T10:44:18Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![nitvit610](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.emma-app.com/nitvit610/32/548_2.png) [@nitvit610](https://community.emma-app.com/u/nitvit610)
#### Post date: [October 1, 2019, 10:44am UTC](https://community.emma-app.com/t/vanguard-integration/3909/1 "2019-10-01T10:44:18Z")

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Is there any update on Vanguard integration?

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### Author: ![edoardomoreni](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.emma-app.com/edoardomoreni/32/9_2.png) [@edoardomoreni](https://community.emma-app.com/u/edoardomoreni)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2019, 3:52pm UTC](https://community.emma-app.com/t/vanguard-integration/3909/2 "2019-10-03T15:52:44Z")

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Not yet. 😛

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### Author: ![nitvit610](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.emma-app.com/nitvit610/32/548_2.png) [@nitvit610](https://community.emma-app.com/u/nitvit610)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2019, 4:03pm UTC](https://community.emma-app.com/t/vanguard-integration/3909/3 "2019-10-03T16:03:39Z")

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Sadness, I want to see how much money I’m losing on my investments ☹

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### Author: ![Recchan](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.emma-app.com/recchan/32/444_2.png) [@Recchan](https://community.emma-app.com/u/Recchan)
#### Post date: [October 4, 2019, 5:12am UTC](https://community.emma-app.com/t/vanguard-integration/3909/4 "2019-10-04T05:12:12Z")

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> [@nitvit610](#):
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> how much money I’m losing on my investments

My friend 🤔 this isn’t how investments are meant to work 😬

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### Author: ![jurgo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.emma-app.com/jurgo/32/1794_2.png) [@jurgo](https://community.emma-app.com/u/jurgo)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2021, 12:29am UTC](https://community.emma-app.com/t/vanguard-integration/3909/5 "2021-11-16T00:29:41Z")

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I guess there s still no progress in this, but what’s the current situation? Is vangard even planning to offer openapi? Just to have an idea about the likehood of this to happen

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### Author: ![edoardomoreni](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.emma-app.com/edoardomoreni/32/9_2.png) [@edoardomoreni](https://community.emma-app.com/u/edoardomoreni)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2021, 10:41am UTC](https://community.emma-app.com/t/vanguard-integration/3909/6 "2021-11-16T10:41:43Z")

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> [@jurgo](#):
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> Is vangard even planning to offer openapi?

They don’t have any legal requirement unfortunately.

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### Author: ![jurgo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.emma-app.com/jurgo/32/1794_2.png) [@jurgo](https://community.emma-app.com/u/jurgo)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2021, 11:30am UTC](https://community.emma-app.com/t/vanguard-integration/3909/7 "2021-11-16T11:30:21Z")

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that’s sad ☹ . Any change to do this using web crawling? (I know is probably very dirty and maybe illegal , just asking because I really want this! )

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### Author: ![edoardomoreni](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.emma-app.com/edoardomoreni/32/9_2.png) [@edoardomoreni](https://community.emma-app.com/u/edoardomoreni)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2021, 1:29pm UTC](https://community.emma-app.com/t/vanguard-integration/3909/8 "2021-11-16T13:29:19Z")

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> [@jurgo](#):
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> Any change to do this using web crawling?

It can be done but requires a lot of developer and maintenance (they usually break on a weekly basis), so we are not really focused on them at this point.

With offline accounts and smart rules, the same experience can be created more or less.

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### Author: ![jurgo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.emma-app.com/jurgo/32/1794_2.png) [@jurgo](https://community.emma-app.com/u/jurgo)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2021, 6:37pm UTC](https://community.emma-app.com/t/vanguard-integration/3909/9 "2021-11-16T18:37:31Z")

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I understand. Make sense, web crawling is a nightmare to mantain 😕  
thanks fo the hint!

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### Author: ![Dwild741](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.emma-app.com/dwild741/32/1940_2.png) [@Dwild741](https://community.emma-app.com/u/Dwild741)
#### Post date: [April 19, 2022, 6:58am UTC](https://community.emma-app.com/t/vanguard-integration/3909/10 "2022-04-19T06:58:34Z")

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Hey, I presume this is the same answer and they are not offering any timeline on offering open API. That is a shame, but want to throw my voice on the pile of requesters 🙂

I update manually and use smart rules today, so definitely manageable, but would be great to have this behave more like my Nutmeg and Pension Bee accounts!

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### Author: ![Mali](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5e9695/32.png) [@Mali](https://community.emma-app.com/u/Mali)
#### Post date: [May 29, 2023, 1:52pm UTC](https://community.emma-app.com/t/vanguard-integration/3909/11 "2023-05-29T13:52:19Z")

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I know this is a really old thread but any updates on this?

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### Author: ![Vladanm999](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.emma-app.com/vladanm999/32/2089_2.png) [@Vladanm999](https://community.emma-app.com/u/Vladanm999)
#### Post date: [May 29, 2023, 4:18pm UTC](https://community.emma-app.com/t/vanguard-integration/3909/12 "2023-05-29T16:18:19Z")

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Have high doubts of this happening try contact vanguard they need tk build the open banking API

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### Author: ![edoardomoreni](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.emma-app.com/edoardomoreni/32/9_2.png) [@edoardomoreni](https://community.emma-app.com/u/edoardomoreni)
#### Post date: [May 29, 2023, 7:33pm UTC](https://community.emma-app.com/t/vanguard-integration/3909/13 "2023-05-29T19:33:32Z")

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No updates on this - sorry guys.

Smart rules + offline accounts is the way to go.

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### Author: ![Vladanm999](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.emma-app.com/vladanm999/32/2089_2.png) [@Vladanm999](https://community.emma-app.com/u/Vladanm999)
#### Post date: [May 30, 2023, 10:44am UTC](https://community.emma-app.com/t/vanguard-integration/3909/14 "2023-05-30T10:44:47Z")

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I think so for now, smart rules update would be great to show the gain or loss rather than having no idea currently just changes the value. Id love to see how much my entire portfolio across everything in the investment tab is either up or down as a percentage

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### Author: ![IdeaSuggestor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/3bc359/32.png) [@IdeaSuggestor](https://community.emma-app.com/u/IdeaSuggestor)
#### Post date: [December 27, 2023, 1:31pm UTC](https://community.emma-app.com/t/vanguard-integration/3909/16 "2023-12-27T13:31:54Z")

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I know that this is an old topic and clearly there is no update from Vanguards side about getting on the Open Protocol.

Would it be possible to build a dummy tracker for any give portfolio (e.g. A amount invested in B ticker is currently worth C)?

This would still be a manual process but more accurate than just estimates.

Thanks very much in advance,

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### Author: ![liliiakasian](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.emma-app.com/liliiakasian/32/2315_2.png) [@liliiakasian](https://community.emma-app.com/u/liliiakasian)
#### Post date: [February 6, 2024, 3:43pm UTC](https://community.emma-app.com/t/vanguard-integration/3909/17 "2024-02-06T15:43:00Z")

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Hey!

Not yet, but the tracker idea is cool. I will bring it to the team’s attention. Thank you!

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### Author: ![Appnewb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e9a140/32.png) [@Appnewb](https://community.emma-app.com/u/Appnewb)
#### Post date: [October 28, 2025, 1:08pm UTC](https://community.emma-app.com/t/vanguard-integration/3909/18 "2025-10-28T13:08:32Z")

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Hi,

I can see that users have requested this for years, is there any progress on this one?

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### Author: ![edoardomoreni](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.emma-app.com/edoardomoreni/32/9_2.png) [@edoardomoreni](https://community.emma-app.com/u/edoardomoreni)
#### Post date: [October 28, 2025, 1:34pm UTC](https://community.emma-app.com/t/vanguard-integration/3909/19 "2025-10-28T13:34:51Z")

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For vanguard, at this stage, the best setup is offline account + smart rule. 🙂

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### Author: ![Vladanm999](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.emma-app.com/vladanm999/32/2089_2.png) [@Vladanm999](https://community.emma-app.com/u/Vladanm999)
#### Post date: [October 28, 2025, 2:24pm UTC](https://community.emma-app.com/t/vanguard-integration/3909/20 "2025-10-28T14:24:33Z")

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> [@Offline Investment/Pension Account Feature](https://community.emma-app.com/t/offline-investment-pension-account-feature/7671):
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> Like a lot of people I use the offline accounts to track my investments so it would be great to be able to track my investment account returns Option 1 - manually track units bought and the price if i could input how many shares and the price emma could pull the current price and work out my return Example : buy 25 share of APPL AT £100 a share track the returns Option 2 - when i add transactions manually by importing via csv or adding in manually be able to mark the transaction as a deposit …

could we add something like this to advance offline investment accounts

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### Author: ![edoardomoreni](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.emma-app.com/edoardomoreni/32/9_2.png) [@edoardomoreni](https://community.emma-app.com/u/edoardomoreni)
#### Post date: [October 28, 2025, 4:12pm UTC](https://community.emma-app.com/t/vanguard-integration/3909/21 "2025-10-28T16:12:20Z")

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I think we can look into this as well.

As of now, I’ve the same issues and have an offline account for each vanguard (GIA/ISA) + a separate rule each.

If you are on an auto-invest plan, it tracks perfectly. You might need to re-adjust the balance every now and then, but it’s a one off every other month. 🙂

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